31 July 2026

Welcome to a summer bonus episode of Material Matters with Grant Gibson, in association with Aesop, and recorded at the brand’s Copenhagen store during June's 3daysofdesign festival. 

In this special edition, Grant is joined by Rebecca Lawson, Aesop’s head of sustainability, and the multi-award-winning artist and designer Jessie French, founder of Melbourne-based design studio Other Matter, which has built a global reputation through its work with algae-derived polymers. 

Over the next fifty minutes the trio discuss: the philosophy and history of Aesop; making products with a purpose; the relationship between sustainability and the brand’s DNA; working with algae; the importance of systems design; why Aesop and French joined forces in the first instance; creating a revolutionary signage film; how French is turning her waste into a leather alternative; and their potential future relationship. 

It’s a fascinating listen. 

This episode has been sponsored by Aesop.

Find out more about Aesop and Jessie French